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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
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Chinese Govt is the best in treating "filthy proselytizing bigoted
racist intolerant VIRUSES aka Islam and Christianity" like VIRUSES.

Christianity and Islam are TWO MENTAL ILLNESSES (VIRUSES) that
AFFLICTED/INFECTED human species for the last 2000 years.

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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness


The country is putting Muslims in internment camps—and causing real
psychological damage in the process.

Sigal Samuel
Aug 28, 2018

One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment
camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former
inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have
told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting
several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own
Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party
propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates
being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to
Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.


The sheer scale of the internment camp system, which according to The
Wall Street Journal has doubled in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region
just within the last year, is mindboggling. The U.S.
Congressional-Executive Commission on China describes it as “the largest
mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today.” Beijing
began by targeting Uighur extremists, but now even benign manifestations
of Muslim identity—like growing a long beard—can get a Uighur sent to a
camp, the Journal noted. Earlier this month, when a UN panel confronted
a senior Chinese official about the camps, he said there are “no such
things as reeducation centers,” even though government documents refer
to the facilities that way. Instead, he claimed they’re just vocational
schools for criminals.

China has been selling a very different narrative to its own population.
Although the authorities frequently describe the internment camps as
schools, they also liken them to another type of institution: hospitals.
Here’s an excerpt from an official Communist Party audio recording,
which was transmitted last year to Uighurs via WeChat, a social-media
platform, and which was transcribed and translated by Radio Free Asia:


Members of the public who have been chosen for reeducation have been
infected by an ideological illness. They have been infected with
religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology, and therefore they
must seek treatment from a hospital as an inpatient. … The religious
extremist ideology is a type of poisonous medicine, which confuses the
mind of the people. … If we do not eradicate religious extremism at its
roots, the violent terrorist incidents will grow and spread all over
like an incurable malignant tumor.

“Religious belief is seen as a pathology” in China, explained James
Millward, a professor of Chinese history at Georgetown University,
adding that Beijing often claims religion fuels extremism and
separatism. “So now they’re calling reeducation camps ‘hospitals’ meant
to cure thinking. It’s like an inoculation, a search-and-destroy medical
procedure that they want to apply to the whole Uighur population, to
kill the germs of extremism. But it’s not just giving someone a
shot—it’s locking them up for months in bad conditions.”

China has long feared that Uighurs will attempt to establish their own
national homeland in Xinjiang, which they refer to as East Turkestan. In
2009, ethnic riots there resulted in hundreds of deaths, and some
radical Uighurs have carried out terrorist attacks in recent years.
Chinese officials have claimed that in order to suppress the threat of
Uighur separatism and extremism, the government needs to crack down not
only on those Uighurs who show signs of having been radicalized, but on
a significant swath of the population.

The medical analogy is one way the government tries to justify its
policy of large-scale internment: After all, attempting to inoculate a
whole population against, say, the flu, requires giving flu shots not
just to the already-afflicted few, but to a critical mass of people. In
fact, using this rhetoric, China has tried to defend a system of arrest
quotas for Uighurs. Police officers confirmed to Radio Free Asia that
they are under orders to meet specific population targets when rounding
up people for internment. In one township, police officials said they
were being ordered to send 40 percent of the local population to the camps.

China is going to outrageous lengths to surveil its own citizens

The government also uses this pathologizing language in an attempt to
justify lengthy internments and future interventions any time officials
deem Islam a threat. “It’s being treated as a mental illness that’s
never guaranteed to be completely cured, like addiction or depression,”
said Timothy Grose, a China expert at the Rose Hulman Institute of
Technology. “There’s something mentally wrong that needs to be
diagnosed, treated—and followed up with.” Here’s how the Communist Party
recording cited above explains this, while alluding to the threat of
contagion:

There is always a risk that the illness will manifest itself at any
moment, which would cause serious harm to the public. That is why they
must be admitted to a reeducation hospital in time to treat and cleanse
the virus from their brain and restore their normal mind. … Being
infected by religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology and not
seeking treatment is like being infected by a disease that has not been
treated in time, or like taking toxic drugs. … There is no guarantee
that it will not trigger and affect you in the future.

Having gone through reeducation and recovered from the ideological
disease doesn’t mean that one is permanently cured. … So, after
completing the reeducation process in the hospital and returning home …
they must remain vigilant, empower themselves with the correct
knowledge, strengthen their ideological studies, and actively attend
various public activities to bolster their immune system.

Several other government-issued documents use this type of medical
language. “This stuff about the poison in the brain—it’s definitely out
there,” said Rian Thum, noting that even civilians tasked with carrying
out the crackdown in Xinjiang speak of “eradicating its tumors.”
Recruitment advertisements for staff in the internment camps state that
experience in psychological training is a plus, Thum and other experts
said. Chinese websites describe reeducation sessions where psychologists
perform consultations with Uighurs and treat what they call extremism as
a mental illness. A government document published last year in Khotan
Prefecture described forced indoctrination as “a free hospital treatment
for the masses with sick thinking.”

This is not the first time China has used medical analogies to suppress
a religious minority. “Historically, it’s comparable to the strategy
toward Falun Gong,” said Adrian Zenz, a researcher at the European
School of Culture and Theology in Germany. He was referring to a
spiritual practice whose followers were suppressed in the early 2000s
through reeducation in forced labor camps. “Falun Gong was also treated
like a dangerous addiction. … But in Xinjiang this [rhetoric] is
certainly being pushed to the next level. The explicit link with the
addictive effect of religion is being emphasized possibly in an
unprecedented way.”

China’s new frontiers in dystopian tech

Tahir Imin, a U.S.-based Uighur academic from Xinjiang who said he has
several family members in internment camps, was not surprised to hear
his religion being characterized as if it’s a disease. In his view, it’s
part of China’s attempt to eradicate Muslim ethnic minorities and
forcefully assimilate them into the Han Chinese majority. “If they have
any ‘illness,’ it is being Uighur,” he said. In addition to Uighurs, The
Washington Post has reported that Muslim members of other ethnic groups,
like the Kazakhs and the Kyrgyz, have been sent to the camps. “I think
the Chinese government is saying: ‘This ideological hospital—in there,
send every person who is not [ethnically] Chinese. They are sick, they
are not safe [to be around], they are not reliable, they are not healthy
people.’”


The doors of mosques closed by authorities in Xinjiang (Thomas Peter /
Reuters)

The terrible irony is that in “treating” Uighurs for supposed
psychological problems, China is causing very real psychological damage,
both at home and abroad. One former inmate told The Independent he
suffered thoughts of suicide inside the camps. And as Uighurs in exile
around the world learn what is happening to their relatives back home,
some have told reporters they suffer from insomnia, depression, anxiety,
and paranoia.

Murat Harri Uyghur, a 33-year-old doctor who moved to Finland in 2010,
said he has received word from relatives that both his parents are in
the camps. He has launched an online campaign, “Free My Parents,” he
said will raise money to start an advocacy organization to help them,
but he told me he suffers from recurrent panic attacks. He also
described finding himself prone to feelings of anger, powerlessness, and
exhaustion. “I try to be normal,” he said, “but I have a psychological
problem now.”

In an interview with The Globe and Mail, a Uighur woman in Canada who
said she had a sister in the camps said, “I cannot concentrate on
anything. My mind is off. I cannot sleep.” She added, “I lost a lot of
weight because I don’t want to eat anymore.”

Some Uighurs I spoke to who are living abroad also have to cope with a
pervasive sense of guilt. They know that Beijing treats any Uighur who’s
traveled internationally as suspicious, and that their family members
are treated as suspicious by association. For example, a 24-year-old
Uighur attending graduate school in Kentucky, who requested anonymity
for fear that China would further punish his relatives, said it’s been
197 days since he’s been able to contact his father in Xinjiang. He
tracks the days on a board tacked to his bedroom wall. “I’m afraid for
my dad’s life,” he said. Asked why he believes his father was sent to an
internment camp, he replied without a trace of doubt: “Because I go to
school here in a foreign country.”

“Now I know that if I ever go home,” he added, “I will be imprisoned
just like my dad.”
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2018-08-30 18:43:27 UTC
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Chinese Govt is the best in treating "filthy proselytizing bigoted
racist intolerant VIRUSES aka Islam and Christianity" like VIRUSES.
Christianity and Islam are TWO MENTAL ILLNESSES (VIRUSES) that
AFFLICTED/INFECTED human species for the last 2000 years.
================================================================
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/568525/?__twitter_impression=true
China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
The country is putting Muslims in internment camps—and causing real
psychological damage in the process.
Sigal Samuel
Aug 28, 2018
One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment
camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former
inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have
told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting
several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own
Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party
propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates
being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to
Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.
The sheer scale of the internment camp system, which according to The
Wall Street Journal has doubled in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region
just within the last year, is mindboggling. The U.S.
Congressional-Executive Commission on China describes it as “the largest
mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today.” Beijing
began by targeting Uighur extremists, but now even benign manifestations
of Muslim identity—like growing a long beard—can get a Uighur sent to a
camp, the Journal noted. Earlier this month, when a UN panel confronted
a senior Chinese official about the camps, he said there are “no such
things as reeducation centers,” even though government documents refer
to the facilities that way. Instead, he claimed they’re just vocational
schools for criminals.
China has been selling a very different narrative to its own population.
Although the authorities frequently describe the internment camps as
schools, they also liken them to another type of institution: hospitals.
Here’s an excerpt from an official Communist Party audio recording,
which was transmitted last year to Uighurs via WeChat, a social-media
Members of the public who have been chosen for reeducation have been
infected by an ideological illness. They have been infected with
religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology, and therefore they
must seek treatment from a hospital as an inpatient. … The religious
extremist ideology is a type of poisonous medicine, which confuses the
mind of the people. … If we do not eradicate religious extremism at its
roots, the violent terrorist incidents will grow and spread all over
like an incurable malignant tumor.
“Religious belief is seen as a pathology” in China, explained James
Millward, a professor of Chinese history at Georgetown University,
adding that Beijing often claims religion fuels extremism and
separatism. “So now they’re calling reeducation camps ‘hospitals’ meant
to cure thinking. It’s like an inoculation, a search-and-destroy medical
procedure that they want to apply to the whole Uighur population, to
kill the germs of extremism. But it’s not just giving someone a
shot—it’s locking them up for months in bad conditions.”
China has long feared that Uighurs will attempt to establish their own
national homeland in Xinjiang, which they refer to as East Turkestan. In
2009, ethnic riots there resulted in hundreds of deaths, and some
radical Uighurs have carried out terrorist attacks in recent years.
Chinese officials have claimed that in order to suppress the threat of
Uighur separatism and extremism, the government needs to crack down not
only on those Uighurs who show signs of having been radicalized, but on
a significant swath of the population.
The medical analogy is one way the government tries to justify its
policy of large-scale internment: After all, attempting to inoculate a
whole population against, say, the flu, requires giving flu shots not
just to the already-afflicted few, but to a critical mass of people. In
fact, using this rhetoric, China has tried to defend a system of arrest
quotas for Uighurs. Police officers confirmed to Radio Free Asia that
they are under orders to meet specific population targets when rounding
up people for internment. In one township, police officials said they
were being ordered to send 40 percent of the local population to the camps.
China is going to outrageous lengths to surveil its own citizens
The government also uses this pathologizing language in an attempt to
justify lengthy internments and future interventions any time officials
deem Islam a threat. “It’s being treated as a mental illness that’s
never guaranteed to be completely cured, like addiction or depression,”
said Timothy Grose, a China expert at the Rose Hulman Institute of
Technology. “There’s something mentally wrong that needs to be
diagnosed, treated—and followed up with.” Here’s how the Communist Party
recording cited above explains this, while alluding to the threat of
There is always a risk that the illness will manifest itself at any
moment, which would cause serious harm to the public. That is why they
must be admitted to a reeducation hospital in time to treat and cleanse
the virus from their brain and restore their normal mind. … Being
infected by religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology and not
seeking treatment is like being infected by a disease that has not been
treated in time, or like taking toxic drugs. … There is no guarantee
that it will not trigger and affect you in the future.
Having gone through reeducation and recovered from the ideological
disease doesn’t mean that one is permanently cured. … So, after
completing the reeducation process in the hospital and returning home …
they must remain vigilant, empower themselves with the correct
knowledge, strengthen their ideological studies, and actively attend
various public activities to bolster their immune system.
Several other government-issued documents use this type of medical
language. “This stuff about the poison in the brain—it’s definitely out
there,” said Rian Thum, noting that even civilians tasked with carrying
out the crackdown in Xinjiang speak of “eradicating its tumors.”
Recruitment advertisements for staff in the internment camps state that
experience in psychological training is a plus, Thum and other experts
said. Chinese websites describe reeducation sessions where psychologists
perform consultations with Uighurs and treat what they call extremism as
a mental illness. A government document published last year in Khotan
Prefecture described forced indoctrination as “a free hospital treatment
for the masses with sick thinking.”
This is not the first time China has used medical analogies to suppress
a religious minority. “Historically, it’s comparable to the strategy
toward Falun Gong,” said Adrian Zenz, a researcher at the European
School of Culture and Theology in Germany. He was referring to a
spiritual practice whose followers were suppressed in the early 2000s
through reeducation in forced labor camps. “Falun Gong was also treated
like a dangerous addiction. … But in Xinjiang this [rhetoric] is
certainly being pushed to the next level. The explicit link with the
addictive effect of religion is being emphasized possibly in an
unprecedented way.”
China’s new frontiers in dystopian tech
Tahir Imin, a U.S.-based Uighur academic from Xinjiang who said he has
several family members in internment camps, was not surprised to hear
his religion being characterized as if it’s a disease. In his view, it’s
part of China’s attempt to eradicate Muslim ethnic minorities and
forcefully assimilate them into the Han Chinese majority. “If they have
any ‘illness,’ it is being Uighur,” he said. In addition to Uighurs, The
Washington Post has reported that Muslim members of other ethnic groups,
like the Kazakhs and the Kyrgyz, have been sent to the camps. “I think
the Chinese government is saying: ‘This ideological hospital—in there,
send every person who is not [ethnically] Chinese. They are sick, they
are not safe [to be around], they are not reliable, they are not healthy
people.’”
The doors of mosques closed by authorities in Xinjiang (Thomas Peter /
Reuters)
The terrible irony is that in “treating” Uighurs for supposed
psychological problems, China is causing very real psychological damage,
both at home and abroad. One former inmate told The Independent he
suffered thoughts of suicide inside the camps. And as Uighurs in exile
around the world learn what is happening to their relatives back home,
some have told reporters they suffer from insomnia, depression, anxiety,
and paranoia.
Murat Harri Uyghur, a 33-year-old doctor who moved to Finland in 2010,
said he has received word from relatives that both his parents are in
the camps. He has launched an online campaign, “Free My Parents,” he
said will raise money to start an advocacy organization to help them,
but he told me he suffers from recurrent panic attacks. He also
described finding himself prone to feelings of anger, powerlessness, and
exhaustion. “I try to be normal,” he said, “but I have a psychological
problem now.”
In an interview with The Globe and Mail, a Uighur woman in Canada who
said she had a sister in the camps said, “I cannot concentrate on
anything. My mind is off. I cannot sleep.” She added, “I lost a lot of
weight because I don’t want to eat anymore.”
Some Uighurs I spoke to who are living abroad also have to cope with a
pervasive sense of guilt. They know that Beijing treats any Uighur who’s
traveled internationally as suspicious, and that their family members
are treated as suspicious by association. For example, a 24-year-old
Uighur attending graduate school in Kentucky, who requested anonymity
for fear that China would further punish his relatives, said it’s been
197 days since he’s been able to contact his father in Xinjiang. He
tracks the days on a board tacked to his bedroom wall. “I’m afraid for
my dad’s life,” he said. Asked why he believes his father was sent to an
internment camp, he replied without a trace of doubt: “Because I go to
school here in a foreign country.”
“Now I know that if I ever go home,” he added, “I will be imprisoned
just like my dad.”
Translation: The Chinese government is saying Muslims like FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer are bonkers... RH
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
Islam IS a mental illness:


"[Mohammed] was not capable of introspection. He had shown all the symptoms
of his lunacy and his prophetic claim was based on the quicksand of grand
delusion. But the irony is that the entire religion of Islam is based on the
truth claim of such a man who could easily swing back and forth between the
two extremes - reality and fantasy. Like the mythological Narcissus, he
actually worshipped his own image - not God. He had created Allah in his own
image and attributed to that God the qualities of his own self. He used
Islam to pervade Muslim psyche, and possessed their mind. Islam is an
extremely defenseless religion and hence vulnerable to collapse.
"Defenseless" in the sense, there is not a single atom of truth in it to
support. This failed religion, originated from the grand delusion of a
malignant Narcissist, is the biggest hoax humanity has ever seen. It is like
a house of cards - looks tall, big, mighty and gigantic but the base is very
weak. The aim of this book is to diagnose Muhammad by making use of
biographical data and through the application of psychological theory and
research. This psychobiography is all about the "why" - the question of
motives. It uncovers the private motives behind his public acts. Muhammad
suffered from malignant narcissism, and was also affected by neurotic
disorder which caused regular psychiatric delusions."
https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Dismantled-Illness-Prophet-Muhammad/dp/1926800060

"According to me, most of the Muslims know virtually nothing about the
Prophet of Islam because an honest biography of Muhammad was never written
for them. There are enough pious and totally unobjective traditions of
Muhammad preserved by the Muslim religious community, but what is lacking in
these sources is honesty. Even today, numerous works in Arabic and other
Muslim majority languages appear each year. These books try to portray
Muhammad as a holy man, a seer, visionary and miracle worker; which are far
away from truth. The reason, Muslims cannot write an honest biography of
their Prophet, is that the biography of Muhammad is a subject that is taboo.
That’s why Muslims learn about the Muhammad of faith, not the Muhammad of
history." https://myislam.dk/articles/en/das%20islam-dismantled.php
Bob Martin
2018-08-31 07:30:28 UTC
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
2018-09-03 20:24:01 UTC
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.

No other religion can even come close to Hinduism in anything.

The TWO VIRUSES Islam and Christianity KILLED Millions of human beings
ever since they were invented by TWO NARROW MINDED BIGOTS Jesus and
Mohammad.


Chinese Govt is the best in treating "filthy proselytizing bigoted
racist intolerant VIRUSES aka Islam and Christianity" like VIRUSES.

Christianity and Islam are TWO MENTAL ILLNESSES (VIRUSES) that
AFFLICTED/INFECTED human species for the last 2000 years.

================================================================


https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/568525/?__twitter_impression=true

China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness


The country is putting Muslims in internment camps—and causing real
psychological damage in the process.

Sigal Samuel
Aug 28, 2018

One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment
camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former
inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have
told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting
several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own
Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party
propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates
being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to
Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.


The sheer scale of the internment camp system, which according to The
Wall Street Journal has doubled in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region
just within the last year, is mindboggling. The U.S.
Congressional-Executive Commission on China describes it as “the largest
mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today.” Beijing
began by targeting Uighur extremists, but now even benign manifestations
of Muslim identity—like growing a long beard—can get a Uighur sent to a
camp, the Journal noted. Earlier this month, when a UN panel confronted
a senior Chinese official about the camps, he said there are “no such
things as reeducation centers,” even though government documents refer
to the facilities that way. Instead, he claimed they’re just vocational
schools for criminals.

China has been selling a very different narrative to its own population.
Although the authorities frequently describe the internment camps as
schools, they also liken them to another type of institution: hospitals.
Here’s an excerpt from an official Communist Party audio recording,
which was transmitted last year to Uighurs via WeChat, a social-media
platform, and which was transcribed and translated by Radio Free Asia:


Members of the public who have been chosen for reeducation have been
infected by an ideological illness. They have been infected with
religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology, and therefore they
must seek treatment from a hospital as an inpatient. … The religious
extremist ideology is a type of poisonous medicine, which confuses the
mind of the people. … If we do not eradicate religious extremism at its
roots, the violent terrorist incidents will grow and spread all over
like an incurable malignant tumor.

“Religious belief is seen as a pathology” in China, explained James
Millward, a professor of Chinese history at Georgetown University,
adding that Beijing often claims religion fuels extremism and
separatism. “So now they’re calling reeducation camps ‘hospitals’ meant
to cure thinking. It’s like an inoculation, a search-and-destroy medical
procedure that they want to apply to the whole Uighur population, to
kill the germs of extremism. But it’s not just giving someone a
shot—it’s locking them up for months in bad conditions.”

China has long feared that Uighurs will attempt to establish their own
national homeland in Xinjiang, which they refer to as East Turkestan. In
2009, ethnic riots there resulted in hundreds of deaths, and some
radical Uighurs have carried out terrorist attacks in recent years.
Chinese officials have claimed that in order to suppress the threat of
Uighur separatism and extremism, the government needs to crack down not
only on those Uighurs who show signs of having been radicalized, but on
a significant swath of the population.

The medical analogy is one way the government tries to justify its
policy of large-scale internment: After all, attempting to inoculate a
whole population against, say, the flu, requires giving flu shots not
just to the already-afflicted few, but to a critical mass of people. In
fact, using this rhetoric, China has tried to defend a system of arrest
quotas for Uighurs. Police officers confirmed to Radio Free Asia that
they are under orders to meet specific population targets when rounding
up people for internment. In one township, police officials said they
were being ordered to send 40 percent of the local population to the camps.

China is going to outrageous lengths to surveil its own citizens

The government also uses this pathologizing language in an attempt to
justify lengthy internments and future interventions any time officials
deem Islam a threat. “It’s being treated as a mental illness that’s
never guaranteed to be completely cured, like addiction or depression,”
said Timothy Grose, a China expert at the Rose Hulman Institute of
Technology. “There’s something mentally wrong that needs to be
diagnosed, treated—and followed up with.” Here’s how the Communist Party
recording cited above explains this, while alluding to the threat of
contagion:

There is always a risk that the illness will manifest itself at any
moment, which would cause serious harm to the public. That is why they
must be admitted to a reeducation hospital in time to treat and cleanse
the virus from their brain and restore their normal mind. … Being
infected by religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology and not
seeking treatment is like being infected by a disease that has not been
treated in time, or like taking toxic drugs. … There is no guarantee
that it will not trigger and affect you in the future.

Having gone through reeducation and recovered from the ideological
disease doesn’t mean that one is permanently cured. … So, after
completing the reeducation process in the hospital and returning home …
they must remain vigilant, empower themselves with the correct
knowledge, strengthen their ideological studies, and actively attend
various public activities to bolster their immune system.

Several other government-issued documents use this type of medical
language. “This stuff about the poison in the brain—it’s definitely out
there,” said Rian Thum, noting that even civilians tasked with carrying
out the crackdown in Xinjiang speak of “eradicating its tumors.”
Recruitment advertisements for staff in the internment camps state that
experience in psychological training is a plus, Thum and other experts
said. Chinese websites describe reeducation sessions where psychologists
perform consultations with Uighurs and treat what they call extremism as
a mental illness. A government document published last year in Khotan
Prefecture described forced indoctrination as “a free hospital treatment
for the masses with sick thinking.”

This is not the first time China has used medical analogies to suppress
a religious minority. “Historically, it’s comparable to the strategy
toward Falun Gong,” said Adrian Zenz, a researcher at the European
School of Culture and Theology in Germany. He was referring to a
spiritual practice whose followers were suppressed in the early 2000s
through reeducation in forced labor camps. “Falun Gong was also treated
like a dangerous addiction. … But in Xinjiang this [rhetoric] is
certainly being pushed to the next level. The explicit link with the
addictive effect of religion is being emphasized possibly in an
unprecedented way.”

China’s new frontiers in dystopian tech

Tahir Imin, a U.S.-based Uighur academic from Xinjiang who said he has
several family members in internment camps, was not surprised to hear
his religion being characterized as if it’s a disease. In his view, it’s
part of China’s attempt to eradicate Muslim ethnic minorities and
forcefully assimilate them into the Han Chinese majority. “If they have
any ‘illness,’ it is being Uighur,” he said. In addition to Uighurs, The
Washington Post has reported that Muslim members of other ethnic groups,
like the Kazakhs and the Kyrgyz, have been sent to the camps. “I think
the Chinese government is saying: ‘This ideological hospital—in there,
send every person who is not [ethnically] Chinese. They are sick, they
are not safe [to be around], they are not reliable, they are not healthy
people.’”


The doors of mosques closed by authorities in Xinjiang (Thomas Peter /
Reuters)

The terrible irony is that in “treating” Uighurs for supposed
psychological problems, China is causing very real psychological damage,
both at home and abroad. One former inmate told The Independent he
suffered thoughts of suicide inside the camps. And as Uighurs in exile
around the world learn what is happening to their relatives back home,
some have told reporters they suffer from insomnia, depression, anxiety,
and paranoia.

Murat Harri Uyghur, a 33-year-old doctor who moved to Finland in 2010,
said he has received word from relatives that both his parents are in
the camps. He has launched an online campaign, “Free My Parents,” he
said will raise money to start an advocacy organization to help them,
but he told me he suffers from recurrent panic attacks. He also
described finding himself prone to feelings of anger, powerlessness, and
exhaustion. “I try to be normal,” he said, “but I have a psychological
problem now.”

In an interview with The Globe and Mail, a Uighur woman in Canada who
said she had a sister in the camps said, “I cannot concentrate on
anything. My mind is off. I cannot sleep.” She added, “I lost a lot of
weight because I don’t want to eat anymore.”

Some Uighurs I spoke to who are living abroad also have to cope with a
pervasive sense of guilt. They know that Beijing treats any Uighur who’s
traveled internationally as suspicious, and that their family members
are treated as suspicious by association. For example, a 24-year-old
Uighur attending graduate school in Kentucky, who requested anonymity
for fear that China would further punish his relatives, said it’s been
197 days since he’s been able to contact his father in Xinjiang. He
tracks the days on a board tacked to his bedroom wall. “I’m afraid for
my dad’s life,” he said. Asked why he believes his father was sent to an
internment camp, he replied without a trace of doubt: “Because I go to
school here in a foreign country.”

“Now I know that if I ever go home,” he added, “I will be imprisoned
just like my dad.”
RH156RH
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
Post by RH156RH
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.

The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.

Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters. That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.

One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
Post by RH156RH
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.
The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.
Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters. That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.
One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Hinduism has written documents 10000 years old!? Where do you find them?
Arindam Banerjee
2018-09-04 13:30:29 UTC
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Get better glasses.
guypers
2018-09-04 13:56:06 UTC
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Get better glasses.
India has no written history more than 500 years old moron!
Arindam Banerjee
2018-09-04 20:43:49 UTC
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Who cares about written history other than the newly literate arseholes?
guypers
2018-09-04 20:46:10 UTC
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Who cares about written history other than the newly literate arseholes?
So made up shit? Ijiot
Arindam Banerjee
2018-09-04 23:43:09 UTC
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Who cares about written history other than the newly literate arseholes?
India's ancient literacy is shown by the Ashokan edicts in the phonetic Brahmi script. Those edicts were carved on stone, and are some 2200+ years old.

Read phonetically, the IVC seals show modern Indian names, showing that nothing much has changed in India for the last 5000 years. (The research for this was done by one USA person, who wrote about it in soc.culture.indian several moons ago).

Literacy can be a curse, for it gives endless opportunity for interpolation and exploitation. (The English translations of Indian scripture are just that - the most maligned is Manusmriti.) That is why Indian scripture is handed down by word of mouth, generation by generation.

With the printing press available, this information can be disseminated to all. The vernacular scripts containing the original Sanskrit that is handed down, is thus the key to understanding at the superficial level. At the deeper level, one has to tackle the original and uncorrupted Sanskrit, and that is some task. Properly done, it is very rewarding.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
RH156RH
2018-09-05 11:57:14 UTC
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Who cares about written history other than the newly literate arseholes?
India's ancient literacy is shown by the Ashokan edicts in the phonetic Brahmi script. Those edicts were carved on stone, and are some 2200+ years old.
Read phonetically, the IVC seals show modern Indian names, showing that nothing much has changed in India for the last 5000 years. (The research for this was done by one USA person, who wrote about it in soc.culture.indian several moons ago).
Literacy can be a curse, for it gives endless opportunity for interpolation and exploitation. (The English translations of Indian scripture are just that - the most maligned is Manusmriti.) That is why Indian scripture is handed down by word of mouth, generation by generation.
With the printing press available, this information can be disseminated to all. The vernacular scripts containing the original Sanskrit that is handed down, is thus the key to understanding at the superficial level. At the deeper level, one has to tackle the original and uncorrupted Sanskrit, and that is some task. Properly done, it is very rewarding.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Translation: oral tradition is hideously fallible ... RH
Arindam Banerjee
2018-09-06 08:22:55 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
RH156RH
2018-09-06 18:40:58 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
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2018-09-06 23:22:26 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
The Indian scriptures are genuine in their form and content, and that is what matters to those who know how to extract the meaning.

Literacy in the Western world created the evil Devil. The original Lucifer the #2 of God, was not evil at all. Evil is a literacy construction, caused by interpolation. This Devil-Evil stuff led to witch-burning and unlimited crimes.

In the subcontinent, thanks to the oral-aural traditions, the scriptures in the original Sanskrit are pure, being beyond tampering.thus baffling the foreign criminals_allsorts. The best they can do is to twist them in English, by putting in new words, and mistranslation. While there are plenty of corrupt people in India to help this endeavour, and pretend that the mistranslations are true; the existence of the original scriptures are an insurmountable obstacle to their designs. With the unparalleled beauty and meaning, they will continue to shine as ever, like the Sun.
RH156RH
2018-09-07 13:18:45 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
The Indian scriptures are genuine in their form and content, and that is what matters to those who know how to extract the meaning.
Literacy in the Western world created the evil Devil. The original Lucifer the #2 of God, was not evil at all. Evil is a literacy construction, caused by interpolation. This Devil-Evil stuff led to witch-burning and unlimited crimes.
In the subcontinent, thanks to the oral-aural traditions, the scriptures in the original Sanskrit are pure, being beyond tampering.thus baffling the foreign criminals_allsorts. The best they can do is to twist them in English, by putting in new words, and mistranslation. While there are plenty of corrupt people in India to help this endeavour, and pretend that the mistranslations are true; the existence of the original scriptures are an insurmountable obstacle to their designs. With the unparalleled beauty and meaning, they will continue to shine as ever, like the Sun.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Arindam Banerjee
2018-09-08 22:45:26 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
The Indian scriptures are genuine in their form and content, and that is what matters to those who know how to extract the meaning.
Literacy in the Western world created the evil Devil. The original Lucifer the #2 of God, was not evil at all. Evil is a literacy construction, caused by interpolation. This Devil-Evil stuff led to witch-burning and unlimited crimes.
In the subcontinent, thanks to the oral-aural traditions, the scriptures in the original Sanskrit are pure, being beyond tampering.thus baffling the foreign criminals_allsorts. The best they can do is to twist them in English, by putting in new words, and mistranslation. While there are plenty of corrupt people in India to help this endeavour, and pretend that the mistranslations are true; the existence of the original scriptures are an insurmountable obstacle to their designs. With the unparalleled beauty and meaning, they will continue to shine as ever, like the Sun.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Properly understood, Hinduism makes perfect sense to free and productive people who lead lives as happy as children; moreover, with no need for weekly injections from some organised spiritual oligarchy.
RH156RH
2018-09-10 06:36:18 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
The Indian scriptures are genuine in their form and content, and that is what matters to those who know how to extract the meaning.
Literacy in the Western world created the evil Devil. The original Lucifer the #2 of God, was not evil at all. Evil is a literacy construction, caused by interpolation. This Devil-Evil stuff led to witch-burning and unlimited crimes.
In the subcontinent, thanks to the oral-aural traditions, the scriptures in the original Sanskrit are pure, being beyond tampering.thus baffling the foreign criminals_allsorts. The best they can do is to twist them in English, by putting in new words, and mistranslation. While there are plenty of corrupt people in India to help this endeavour, and pretend that the mistranslations are true; the existence of the original scriptures are an insurmountable obstacle to their designs. With the unparalleled beauty and meaning, they will continue to shine as ever, like the Sun.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Properly understood, Hinduism makes perfect sense to free and productive people who lead lives as happy as children; moreover, with no need for weekly injections from some organised spiritual oligarchy.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Arindam Banerjee
2018-09-10 06:41:01 UTC
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
The Indian scriptures are genuine in their form and content, and that is what matters to those who know how to extract the meaning.
Literacy in the Western world created the evil Devil. The original Lucifer the #2 of God, was not evil at all. Evil is a literacy construction, caused by interpolation. This Devil-Evil stuff led to witch-burning and unlimited crimes.
In the subcontinent, thanks to the oral-aural traditions, the scriptures in the original Sanskrit are pure, being beyond tampering.thus baffling the foreign criminals_allsorts. The best they can do is to twist them in English, by putting in new words, and mistranslation. While there are plenty of corrupt people in India to help this endeavour, and pretend that the mistranslations are true; the existence of the original scriptures are an insurmountable obstacle to their designs. With the unparalleled beauty and meaning, they will continue to shine as ever, like the Sun.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Properly understood, Hinduism makes perfect sense to free and productive people who lead lives as happy as children; moreover, with no need for weekly injections from some organised spiritual oligarchy.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Idiot.
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Oral traditions are the best where people are moral and honourable. The Sanskrit language provides this facility naturally.
Translation: subcontinental myths are just that, myths, handed down fallibly from generation to generation through a process akin to Chinese whispers.. RH
The Indian scriptures are genuine in their form and content, and that is what matters to those who know how to extract the meaning.
Literacy in the Western world created the evil Devil. The original Lucifer the #2 of God, was not evil at all. Evil is a literacy construction, caused by interpolation. This Devil-Evil stuff led to witch-burning and unlimited crimes.
In the subcontinent, thanks to the oral-aural traditions, the scriptures in the original Sanskrit are pure, being beyond tampering.thus baffling the foreign criminals_allsorts. The best they can do is to twist them in English, by putting in new words, and mistranslation. While there are plenty of corrupt people in India to help this endeavour, and pretend that the mistranslations are true; the existence of the original scriptures are an insurmountable obstacle to their designs. With the unparalleled beauty and meaning, they will continue to shine as ever, like the Sun.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Properly understood, Hinduism makes perfect sense to free and productive people who lead lives as happy as children; moreover, with no need for weekly injections from some organised spiritual oligarchy.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
Idiot.
Translation: a mountain of nonsenses which are fit only for children to believe... Rh
RH156RH
2018-09-04 20:51:52 UTC
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
Post by RH156RH
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.
The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.
Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters. That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.
One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Yep, flaws like caste, suttee, dowries, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
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2018-09-05 05:31:40 UTC
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
Post by RH156RH
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.
The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.
Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters. That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.
One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Yep, flaws like caste, suttee, dowries, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
How dumb is the british govt to actually keep your lunatic ass alive and
WASTE valuable oxygen?
RH156RH
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
Post by RH156RH
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.
The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.
Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters. That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.
One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Yep, flaws like caste, suttee, dowries, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
How dumb is the british govt to actually keep your lunatic ass alive and
WASTE valuable oxygen?
"Doctor...there's a Muslim here who is pretending to be a Hindu...." RH
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
Post by RH156RH
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.
The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.
Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters.
Hinduism has been under attack by the desert cult abrahamic PIGS/VIRUSES
for more than 1000 years.
Post by Arindam Banerjee
That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.
One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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2018-09-05 13:28:52 UTC
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
What flaws?
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...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
Caste has nothing to do with Hinduism, it is a social system which is simply wonderful though it has to adapt to modern professionalism; suttee or rather sati-daha is a social tradition giving the most honourable women the freedom to exit this world gloriously on a purely voluntary basis; dowry is optional, and is about helping the young married couple to get along; infanticide of girls is a crime in Hinduism but there are unscrupulous people, unfortunately, though their numbers are very low percentage wise; believing in deities with multiple limbs is perfectly fine by Hindus, for any deity can assume any shape - fish, tortoise, swine, lion, etc. - given the Hindu notion of belief which is vastly different from your sorts.
The purpose of Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Duty/Morality/Rightness) or Hinduism is to make people better and remain better with its own umbrella set of traditions and values, cultures and principles. As Hinduism is far more complex and moral than any competition, other tribes, especially those bent upon aggrandisement, do whatever they can to pull Hinduism down. Boosting Buddhism has been an effective strategy for them.
Hinduism has been under attack ever since India got independence, by the Indian(anti+psuedo)Hindu English-educated elites and their racist+bigoted western colonial masters.
Hinduism has been under attack by the desert cult abrahamic PIGS/VIRUSES
for more than 1000 years.
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That trend has not been reversed by the present ruling party, despite their supposedly pro-Hindu approach.
One has to go back some 1000 years, read the source material, be one with the times and moods then, to be a genuine Hindu. And forget whatever happened for the last 1000 years in India, religion-wise. Ignoring all the English and modern translations, going directly to the ancient Sanskrit, is the key to understanding Hinduism. I did that, and I find that I am now in the most minority religion! Today, Hinduism as popularly understood is in ruins, with no leadership, just gasbag politicians and their uncouth supporters for its representation; but tomorrow is another day, as an US writer wrote.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Have you ever wondered why it's OK to make jokes about Catholics, Jews, Christians, the Pope, the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, the Hungarians, the Chinese, the French (including French Canadians), the elderly, bad golfers, men/women, blacks/whites, etc, but its insensitive to make jokes about the Muslims?

Well, it's time to level the playing field and be politically incorrect, by including our friends, the Muslims, on this grandiose list.

So Jeff Foxworthy did his part to include the Muslims on his list ...

1. If you grow and refine heroin for a living, but morally object to the use of liquor, You may be a Muslim.

2. If you own a $3,000 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but can't afford shoes, You may be a Muslim.

3. If you have more wives than teeth, You may be a Muslim.

4. If you wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon to be unclean, You may be a Muslim.

5. If you think vests come in two styles, Bullet-proof and suicide, You may be a Muslim.

6. If you can't think of anyone that you haven't declared jihad against, You may be a Muslim.

7. If you consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing, You may be a Muslim.

8. If you were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses, other than setting off roadside bombs, You may be a Muslim.

9. If you have nothing against women and think every man should own at least four, then you, too, may be a Muslim.

10. If you find this offensive and do not forward it, you are part of the problem here in America …but if you delete this, you are most likely a Muslim.

HISTORICAL FACT:

Who says building a border wall won't work?

The Chinese built one over 2,000 years ago and they still don't have any Mexicans
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2018-09-05 05:29:43 UTC
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
You should be neutered like a mad dog.
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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness
So is ANY religion.
That is NOT true. Hinduism is the best religion if you exclude one or
two small flaws.
...Like caste, suttee, dowrys, bride murder, infanticide of girls and believing in deities with ridiculous numbers of arms and legs etc you mean? RH
You should be neutered like a mad dog.
No, that what happens to Muslims like you...Off you go to ask your imam for guidance.. RH
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